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Scatts,1.I hope you know I did not mean too look too aggressive, my snciere apologies if you'd taken me as such. Given your description, my own approach to any things I am not qualified to comment seems to want to be different from yours: if I were you, I would like to think I can refrain from both positively and negatively marked words ( cohorts and knives of the Kaczynskis' be the examples of the latter).2.First though, you'd have to decide if to keep on going the serious path or the let's-have-casual-blog-fun path (“Who was Lolek?” would matter only in the latter.)3.The authors of the book about Walesa said they'd gone through thousands of pages to make their publication, and it's just one book about one man in a rather narrowed span of time, as I understand. So, to have a global view on generally everything what happened in Poland, Lech Walesa included, is sheerly impossible (for lack of space and time, then for lack of sources). - - -That is why it's better to report facts and stick to substance, leaving adjectives behind. An example of muddy waters:You say It started for me when Jarosław, the ex-Prime Minister But WHAT is the thing called IT that started?Indeed, I see Kaczynski as a minor voice in the recent heat of discussions. The major opponent of pro-Walesans' seems to be now, whose two historians wrote that book about Walesa.=>In attempts to dismiss the opponent, it could be said that IPN is in its nature a pro-Kaczynski body. (Read the meme: Kaczynski(s) told some two young naive guys to write a false book against Walesa.)=>On the other hand, there is Maria Dmochowska expressing her profound regret, shame and anger that the book is out. (It doesn't add up, the vicechair of pro-Kaczynski IPN taken by a pro-Walesan?)=>On the third hand, there are opponents of Maria Dmochowska who want to downplay her voice by saying she is just a hematologist (a doctor) and no historian, so what can she know .=>On the fourth hand, there are people who but it doesn't stop them from dowplaying importance, method or sources of the book. Often, without having read the book.=>On the fifth hand there can be (opinion:) loonies on the net who have easy pieces of proof that Walesa must be Bolek. E.g. Lech Walesa's father's name was Boleslaw (= Bolek) and it was quite Soviet / Communist to use a patronymic ( otchestvo ) for a codename.THIS IS SOME MAD PING-PONG.- - -Now a few facts:Fact:There was a debate of Lech Walesa against Wojciech Jaruzelski (the martial law general) in 2005. I believe is its correct record (in Polish, naturally). Understand or have all of it translated, or take this for a juicy excerpt: Pomiędzy dyskutującymi Lechem Wałęsą i Wojciechem Jaruzelskim był jeden zgodny wątek. To była niechęć do braci Kaczyńskich. Fact:It was over 3 years ago. And the Bolek thing did not start there. And it did not start with Kaczynski(s). It started with, well, Bolek in the deep of Communist Poland.Lech Walesa, IPN vicechairwoman and more people did not want the book published or some TV material on air. Muffling, threatening.Opinion: Nazi book- burning comes to my mind then. (Long live Godwin's Law.)Fact:In 2008 as in 2005 Lech Walesa can speak his truth. The right his opponents can be denied at times ( why tarnish the icon of Solidarity ? why believe Communist shits instead of Walesa-the-Myth ? Secret Police papers are by definition false and other [opinion here:] bull.)If you want more, you have to dive in the mud yourself. These principles will make it a lot easier, I think.1. You will never get to the truth, only closer to it.2. There are no things to be taken for granted. (And if the only reasonable answer is a conspiracy theory, then so be it.)3. Listen to both / all sides.4. Cui bono? [Here: who can benefit from a row over Walesa's past? Hint: Walesa is a hardly important political figure today.]I take it in good faith that you want to explore in order to find yourself closer to some truth, whatever it may appear to become eventually. If you ask me to provide you with simple truths, I'm sorry, i cannot know them. (I could only give you my personal guesses). Be they guesses or facts, they would always have to be lengthy. So, when I send you to check up different people's opinions on lustracja, it's not that I'm shaking you off, it's just it's a lot of work to do that I think any person interested should do personally.

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